Disability and Employment Struggles

The phrase “everyone is having a hard time getting work” is often presented as reassurance. It is meant to soften the blow for disabled job seekers by suggesting their struggle is not personal. But from a disability advocacy perspective, that statement can also erase the very real, lifelong structural discrimination disabled people experience long before a recession, labour market downturn, or youth employment crisis arrives.

There is a profound difference between entering a difficult job market for the first time and spending an entire lifetime fighting simply to be allowed through the door.

For many disabled New Zealanders, the employment struggle does not begin at graduation. It begins in childhood. It begins in classrooms where support is inconsistent, where expectations are lowered, where students are underestimated or segregated. It continues into tertiary education, where disabled students often have to advocate constantly for accessible materials, assessments, transport, technology, or basic inclusion. Many become experts in resilience long before we ever submit a CV.

By the time a disabled person reaches the workforce, we are often already exhausted from years of proving we belong.

So if society even bothers to respond to our unemployment with “well, everyone is struggling,” it ignores the unequal starting points. It frames systemic discrimination as merely unfortunate timing.

That is not equality.

A nondisabled graduate facing a difficult labour market is encountering a barrier. A disabled graduate may be encountering layered barriers: inaccessible recruitment systems, employer prejudice, assumptions about productivity, transport limitations, benefit system disincentives, inadequate workplace accommodations, and the emotional toll of repeated rejection rooted not in capability but discomfort and bias.

The issue is not simply unemployment. It is unequal access to opportunity.

One of the cruellest realities disabled professionals face is the contradiction between qualifications and employability. Many disabled people are told throughout our education that success depends on gaining qualifications, working hard, and persevering. Yet after meeting every expectation placed upon us, we still encounter suspicion from employers. Gaps in employment become interpreted not as evidence of systemic exclusion, but as personal failure.

And those gaps matter disproportionately.

A nondisabled person with interruptions in employment may be viewed as someone who had bad luck, changed careers, travelled, or experienced economic hardship. A disabled person with identical gaps is often viewed through a deficit lens: unreliable, risky, fragile, expensive, or “too hard.” Employers may never say this openly, but disabled applicants experience its consequences repeatedly.

This creates a cycle of psychological harm. People begin internalising the message that no matter how qualified we become, we will still be seen as less employable than “normal people.” The repeated need to justify one’s existence in professional spaces becomes a form of social attrition.

And yet many disabled people have demonstrated extraordinary capability when actually given opportunities.

The irony is that disabled workers often develop skills employers claim to value: adaptability, problem-solving, persistence, creativity, empathy, and resilience under pressure. Many have navigated inaccessible systems their entire lives. We know how to innovate because survival has required it.

When disabled people do obtain good jobs, we frequently excel. But too often, employment continuity depends less on competence and more on whether a particular manager or organisation is genuinely inclusive. One visionary employer can transform someone’s career trajectory. A prejudiced employer can derail it overnight.

This inconsistency exposes an uncomfortable truth: the problem is not disabled people’s capacity to work. The problem is society’s inconsistent willingness to include us.

That is why it is deeply problematic to suggest disabled professionals should quietly step aside because the broader population is also struggling. Economic hardship does not cancel out discrimination. If anything, downturns often intensify it. When competition increases, marginalised groups are usually pushed further to the edges first.

History shows this repeatedly. Disabled workers are often among the last hired and first discarded.

Advocacy in this space therefore cannot merely focus on “helping disabled people become work ready.” Many already are work ready. Some are overqualified. The conversation must shift toward employer accountability, systemic accessibility, and confronting ableism in hiring practices.

This includes difficult but necessary questions:

• Why are disabled applicants still filtered out before interviews?

• Why are disclosure decisions still fraught with risk?

• Why are workplace accommodations often treated as burdens rather than ordinary aspects of inclusion?

• Why are employment gaps interpreted differently depending on whether someone is disabled?

• Why is disabled unemployment persistently higher even among well educated populations?

These are not individual failings. They are indicators of systemic inequity.

There is also a moral dimension to this discussion. A society that tells disabled people to study, work hard, and contribute, while simultaneously denying them equitable access to employment, creates a profound breach of trust. It asks disabled people to endlessly invest in systems that do not invest equally in them.

That betrayal accumulates over time.

It affects mental health, confidence, financial stability, housing security, relationships, and social participation. Unemployment for disabled people is not merely an economic issue. It is tied to dignity, belonging, and recognition of human worth.

And importantly, disabled people are not asking for charity. We are asking for fairness.

Fairness means recognising that “equal treatment” in an unequal system simply preserves inequality. It means understanding that diversity hiring is not about lowering standards, but correcting exclusionary assumptions about who competence looks like. It means valuing lived experience as part of professional expertise rather than viewing disability solely through a medical or deficit model.

Most of all, fairness means rejecting the idea that disabled people should patiently wait their turn until conditions improve for everyone else.

Because for many disabled New Zealanders, the waiting has already lasted a lifetime.

S1E23 – Interview with Dan Shepherd – General Manager, Community and Inclusion

Dan Shepherd

Dan is Blind Low Vision NZ’s General Manager, Community & Inclusion, and leads a portfolio of work that is community facing and aims to change attitudes towards vision loss and people who are blind, deafblind or low vision. Diagnosed with Retinitis Pigmentosa when he was 15, Dan subscribes to a ‘nothing at us, everything with us’ approach to finding solutions that work for disabled people.

Leading an authentic, 100% client led team to educate and influence accessible and inclusive communities, after his own journey of adjustment and acceptance Dan is proud be part of a bigger picture leading change for disabled people in Aotearoa New Zealand.

Article on Dan being appointed as General Manager, Community and Inclusion, Blind and Low Vision New Zealand.

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast Episode

[00:40] Podcast seeking contributions from Listeners

[01:04] Introduction to Podcast Guest – Dan Shepherd

[01:22] Interview with Dan Shepherd

[23:52] Advert – Bill asking for Tip jar contributions

[24:42] Deep Dive – A challenge to inspiration porn

[29:09] Goodbye from Dr Pam

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S1E22 – Interview with Yenn Purkis – Autistic Author, Speaker, Advocate

Yenn Purkis

Yenn Purkis is an Autistic and ADHD, non-binary, asexual advocate and author. They also have a diagnosis of atypical schizophrenia and anxiety. Yenn has been a disability advocate since 2005 when their first book, the autobiography Finding a Different Kind of Normal, was accepted for publication.

Yenn has worked as Deputy CEO (External Relations) at the Disability Leadership Institute, served as Accessibility Manager for Rebus Theatre, and worked as a public servant for 17 years.

A prolific author, Yenn has written or co-authored 18 published books. They have been presenting since 2002 and have delivered talks worldwide, including presenting at TEDx Canberra twice. Yenn is a sought-after speaker with extensive lived and professional experience in disability advocacy and systemic inclusion.

Their website is: https://yennpurkis.com/

For a list of all their published books: https://yennpurkis.com/books/

Some of Yenn’s TEDx and conference presentations:

Brimbravo, where you can book Yenn as a speaker https://brimbravo.com/speakers-profile-yenn-purkis/

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast Guests

[00:41] Interview with Yenn Purkis

[27:38] DRNZ – Disability Responsiveness New Zealand

[32:42] Goodbye from Dr Pam

Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!
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Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

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S1E22 – Interview with Yenn Purkis – Autistic Author, Speaker, Advocate

Yenn Purkis

Yenn Purkis is an Autistic and ADHD, non-binary, asexual advocate and author. They also have a diagnosis of atypical schizophrenia and anxiety. Yenn has been a disability advocate since 2005 when their first book, the autobiography Finding a Different Kind of Normal, was accepted for publication.

Yenn has worked as Deputy CEO (External Relations) at the Disability Leadership Institute, served as Accessibility Manager for Rebus Theatre, and worked as a public servant for 17 years.

A prolific author, Yenn has written or co-authored 18 published books. They have been presenting since 2002 and have delivered talks worldwide, including presenting at TEDx Canberra twice. Yenn is a sought-after speaker with extensive lived and professional experience in disability advocacy and systemic inclusion.

Their website is: https://yennpurkis.com/

For a list of all their published books: https://yennpurkis.com/books/

Some of Yenn’s TEDx and conference presentations:

Brimbravo, where you can book Yenn as a speaker https://brimbravo.com/speakers-profile-yenn-purkis/

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast Guests

[00:41] Interview with Yenn Purkis

[27:38] DRNZ – Disability Responsiveness New Zealand

[32:42] Goodbye from Dr Pam

Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!
Available on amazon

Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

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S1E21 – Kylee Maloneys award winning broadcast with Victoria Maxwell – Crazy for Life

In this special edition of the Disability Disrupters podcast, Kylee Maloney presents her award winning broadcast, interviewing Victoria Maxwell about Victoria’s one woman show called Crazy for Life. Kylee was February 2026’s podcast guest, so check her episode, Episode 20, after this one.

Victoria Maxwell

Victoria Maxwell, BFA, BPP*  is a sought-after international (and funny) keynote speaker, performing artist and workshop leader. She uses her personal story of recovery from mental illness to increase awareness, transform negative beliefs and ignite powerful conversations about mental health.

Blending 30 years as an actor, and 15 as a wellness warrior, Victoria inspires people to take immediate action to improve their well-being. 

The Mental Health Commission of Canada has endorsed her one-of-a-kind keynote performances as one of the top anti-stigma interventions that creates lasting shifts.

Two scientific studies have shown her theatrical keynotes reduce stigma. Learn about the research results here and here.

She was named one of Canada’s top leaders in Mental Health by the National Centre for Addiction and Mental Health centre (CAMH) and honoured with the National Difference Makers award.

Her plays, keynotes and other efforts have won or been nominated for over 14 awards. They include the Entertainment Industries Council PRISM Award, SAMHSA Voice Award, best foreign stage play at the Moondance International Film Festival, and one of Top Ten Entrepreneurs with Disabilities.

Prior to her diagnosis, Victoria was an actress during the 90’s, playing small roles opposite actors such as X-Files’ David Duchovny, John Travolta and Johnny Depp. She’s blogged for Psychology Today for over 8 years.

While her story is her own, the messages are universal. Even the most veteran of conference delegates are energized and enlightened by her keynotes and workshops.

Victoria’s website is here: https://victoriamaxwell.com/

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast

[00:44] Kylee and Victoria

[29:13] Advert – Tipjar support for the podcast

[30:06] Goodbye from Dr Pam

Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!

Available on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Disability-self-empowerment-Module-charge-future-ebook/dp/B0FJLKGLTV

Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops – view the content of these at https://drnz.co.nz/about-our-workshops-and-programmes/

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

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S1E20 – Interview with Kylee Maloney – Creative and Student of Life

Kylee Maloney

Kylee Maloney has been a creative for as long as she can remember: from trying to make music with two hands on the piano at three to writing fanfiction at nearly 60, she has always enjoyed using her voice, words and music as modes of self-expression — and sometime employment. As a survivor of abuse in the care of RNZFB, she works as Administrator for the small group of survivors tasked with constructing a compensation and redress framework for positive change. She also enjoys reading, weight lifting, a decent glass of wine and setting the world to rights with a small and select group of friends. As a newly-diagnosed autist, she now proudly wears the sunflower and hopes to continue to help others through promotion of self-knowledge as a tool for growth.

The song performed by Kylee after her interview is called, The Water is Wide, from her album, Early One Celtic Morning.

The album is available on Spotify and Apple Music

Connect with Kylee:

  • Kylee has a professional clone of her voice on Eleven Labs. If you would her to read to you and you have Eleven Reader, add Kylee here:

https://elevenlabs.io/app/voice-lab/share/c2b0aec5bdab1dd57f61079e0ad3a1d694cc1657aaa1dfef1e0e31bccf2c3f78/pcKdPWtbF6bM9o7NHjCI

  • The link to Kylee’s fanfic on AO3 is here:

https://archiveofourown.org/users/TheKiwiCelt/works

  • Kylee is featured

in an interview here

about her IT course on radio New Zealand

Podcast Chapters

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast Guest

[01:05] Interview with Kylee Maloney

[37:53] Goodbye from Dr Pam

[38:07] Advert – Tipjar support for the podcast

Dr Pam’s Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!

Available on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Disability-self-empowerment-Module-charge-future-ebook/dp/B0FJLKGLTV

Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops – view the content of these at https://drnz.co.nz/about-our-workshops-and-programmes/

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

Podcast audio and transcript editor : Britta Offergeld

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S1E19 – Interview with Andrew Gadd – Disability Advocate and Content Creator

Andrew Gadd

Andrew is a passionate disability advocate, content creator and aspiring YouTuber. He has a passion for showcasing the positives of leading a fulfilling life with a physical condition.  

You can connect with Andrew here:

Linktree: 

https://linktr.ee/AGGUIDES

TikTok: 

https://www.tiktok.com/@andrew_gadd?_r=1&_t=ZN-92TAGl0r02Y

YouTube: 

https://youtube.com/@andrew_gadd?si=ymO5vaHGG8sCzn12

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast Guest – Andrew Gadd

[01:04] Interview with Andrew Gadd

[21:49] Employment Matters

[25:20] Advert – Disability Self-empowerment: Module one: Take charge of your future!

[26:35] Goodbye from Dr Pam

[26:56] Advert – Tipjar support for the podcast

Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!

Available on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Disability-self-empowerment-Module-charge-future-ebook/dp/B0FJLKGLTV

Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops – view the content of these at https://drnz.co.nz/about-our-workshops-and-programmes/

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

Podcast audio and transcript editor : Britta Offergeldhttps://youtube.com/@andrew_gadd?si=ymO5vaHGG8sCzn12

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S1E19 – Interview with Andrew Gadd – Disability Advocate and Content Creator

Andrew Gadd

Andrew is a passionate disability advocate, content creator and aspiring YouTuber. He has a passion for showcasing the positives of leading a fulfilling life with a physical condition.  

You can connect with Andrew here:

Linktree: 

https://linktr.ee/AGGUIDES

TikTok: 

https://www.tiktok.com/@andrew_gadd?_r=1&_t=ZN-92TAGl0r02Y

YouTube: 

https://youtube.com/@andrew_gadd?si=ymO5vaHGG8sCzn12

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast Guest – Andrew Gadd

[01:04] Interview with Andrew Gadd

[21:49] Employment Matters

[25:20] Advert – Disability Self-empowerment: Module one: Take charge of your future!

[26:35] Goodbye from Dr Pam

[26:56] Advert – Tipjar support for the podcast

Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!

Available on amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Disability-self-empowerment-Module-charge-future-ebook/dp/B0FJLKGLTV

Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops – view the content of these at https://drnz.co.nz/about-our-workshops-and-programmes/

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

Podcast audio and transcript editor : Britta Offergeldhttps://youtube.com/@andrew_gadd?si=ymO5vaHGG8sCzn12

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S1E18 – Interview with Mark Williams – Entrepreneur and National Sales Manager – NZ for HT Systems

Mark Williams

Mark is a successful entrepreneur, and National Sales manager – NZ for HT Systems (Kera sit2sit & Kera Travel hoists). Their first product, the Kera sit2sit hoist, has already made a huge difference in the lives of people living with disability.

Mark has first hand experience as a User of the Kera Travel hoist and can help guide New Zealanders with NZ funding.

Information on NZ funding can be found on the HT systems website here, and this is where Mark’s contact details, such as email address and phone number are available.https://www.htsystems.co.nz

Mark previously ran a lighting business for over two decades, and this business is now based in Auckland, NZ. Check out Flexilight New Zealand

Mark has two short videos of his house/property lighting setup available to be viewed on youtube.

Outside Christmas Lights – Napier NZ

My house -Christmas 2024 Napier NEW ZEALAND

Mark is also involved with custom made wheelchair spoke protector designs at Bazaa Wheels

On a personal note, Mark is in the middle of writing a book about his work and life, so watch out for that announcement coming up.

Emma Bennison

This month Emma is reading us her blog article "Stop Mining our Ideas. Start Appointing Disabled Leaders"

Audio Chapters

[00:00] Introduction – Disability Disrupters Podcast

[00:21] Introduction to Podcast

[00:51] Interview with Mark WIlliams

[13:20] Advert – Tipjar support for the podcast

[14:17] Stop Mining Our Ideas. Start Appointing Disabled Leaders

[21:32] Advert – fast braille translation service

[22:34] Goodbye from Dr Pam

Footnotes

Disability Self-empowerment: Module One: Take charge of your future!

Available on amazon here

Disability Responsiveness New Zealand offers personalised mentoring and workshops

Audio Shorts, background music provided by http://www.andrelouis.com

Podcast audio and transcript editor : Britta Offergeld

Support Disability Disrupters by contributing to their tip jar: https://tips.pinecast.com/jar/disability-disrupters

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